A Smattering of Postmodern Lyrics
March 18th 2009 03:22
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From I Will Lick Your Asshole by Regurgitator:
I'm so far underground that I'm a one person scene
From No Such Thing by John Mayer:
I just found out there's no such thing as the real world
just a lie you've got to rise above
From I'm So Postmodern by The Bedroom Philosopher:
I’m so postmodern I went home and typed up everything you said and printed it out in wingdings and gave it back to you.
I'm so far underground that I'm a one person scene
From No Such Thing by John Mayer:
I just found out there's no such thing as the real world
just a lie you've got to rise above
From I'm So Postmodern by The Bedroom Philosopher:
I’m so postmodern I went home and typed up everything you said and printed it out in wingdings and gave it back to you.
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While I cannot tell you what the person who designed that table had in mind, I'll give you my own interpretation of 'mystical', although this is not how I usually describe my beliefs:
As you know, I am an atheist. Yet I am very interested in the concepts of karma and astrology. I might even say I live my life by 'do unto thy neighbour as you would have done to yourself' (or whatever the exact biblical quote is). In other words, I am flexible in appropriating different aspects of various belief systems into my own, as I feel is right, and this is the realm of the intuitive, the non-Rational, and the 'mystic'. For example, I do not officially believe in astrology, yet I kind of integrate it into my belief system because it helps me create meaningful narratives. Perhaps my favourite astrologer Rob Brezsny put it best when he said he only believed in it 80% of the time.
What the table inventor may also have had in mind is the idea that, while religion is rejected as flawed, science is just as flawed in its own way (relies on a metanarrative), and so a new understanding of the world must emerge which is informed by the best part of both systems, but which relies wholly on neither. I would put 'anything goes' instead of 'mystical' in this case, but the idea of being 'mystical', or perhaps 'open to the mysteries in life' without being 'supernatural' is appealing in its own way. Post-anti-supernatural? Lol. This would indicate a new age kind of spirituality which is fragmented and multi-faceted, and always changing.
But, as with anything, its up to you to interpret 'mystical', and indeed 'postmodernism' as you wish - this are just my thoughts.
I hope that helped, and I'd be happy to answer any more questions on anything relating to postmodernism...
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i guess its like acknowledging there are some things we may never have the answers for?
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Comment by Gilbert Keith
Why bother "doing unto neighbor as self"? Is there any cosmic imperative to do so? If it is pragmatic for me to lie, cheat, steal, murder , rape to my own satisfaction, why not [assuming I can get away with it in a purely physical, material sense]?
If there is a cosmic imperative: "doing unto neighbor as self"? , doesn't such a cosmic rule negate the self as the absolute creator of value [and that would be the beginning of the end of a coherent postmodern view]and demand our subjection (or at least condemn our rebellion against) that cosmic imperative? And who/what crated the cosmic imperative to "be nice"? If there is no cosmic imperative [i.e. no transcendent morality] is Gandhi any better or worse than Hitler or Pol Pot? Can we call Hitler "wrong" if we are "beyond good and evil"? Or is he merely asserting his truth via will until he runs into a superior will? [Ergo, Sartre says "Hell is other people"]
I am often left wondering - after wading through fuzzy verbiage about "being tue to yourself" - how one can be postmodern with intellectual consustiency and coherency...I'm curious to hear responses
Peace (if that is indeed a value which you have created within your existentially self-supporting postmodern Weltanschuung)
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I identify as both a postmodernist and an atheist, and I think they go together quite well. While the table above is interesting, I don't hold to it strongly. It's just another text, suitable for some kinds of exploration and not for others.
Truth is a construct, not an entity. I avoid this word, especially in writing, because people tend to take it out of context.
I like treating other people the way I would like to be treated myself - it's just something that works for me. I don't believe there is a cosmic imperative to do anything. I can't tell you that you shouldn't lie, cheat, etc - you have to design your own values.
Everyone has a different opinion of the historical figures you mention. It's all a state of mind: to a neo-Nazi, Hitler would be better than Ghandi. That person's viewpoint is no more or less valid than yours or mine, it's just different. I may think that that person needs counseling, and I would try to help them get them that help, or else leave them alone, but I have to acknowledge that they are entitled to their opinion.
You can call Hitler whatever you like, and other people will agree, disagree, or be inspired to adopt a position that does neither.
how one can be postmodern with intellectual consustiency and coherency
The whole point of postmodernism is to celebrate inconsistency and incoherence!